to help us. it's possible to get kids to try new foods and make it fun not the battle that parents are subpoenaing. >> i don't like it, making the chicken nuggets, pizzas, hamburgers or giving them small portions or the fruit that i put on screwers stshgs dangerous, so you make things like traffic lights. instead of fruit balls and straight parts and-- they'll eat it it's attractive. >> kind of like a fruit stop light, i like that. >> that's right. >> your ten-year-old assistants are going to help you cook some fun foods and get them involved in the process. >> that's right. >> get them excited. >> go ahead and get the pieces here. >> and getting the kids to make their own food, with my kids every friday night and she's five, i got to cook the family supper and invite the friends over. the same meal every friday by a month and by the fourth friday they were brilliant at it. >> by the fourth friday you weren't ordering pizza after they went to bed. >> got some things to show you. veggie burgers no